Ok. This is a live game, so I don't have hand converters.

1-2 BP 10 handed ring game
Scuba - 2-2 - SB

Pre-flop: Dooley raises to 10 EP. Scott calls. Peter calls. Scuba calls in SB. BB folds. pot: $44

Flop: K-K-7 (two diamonds) -- Checks around
Turn: 2d (third diamond) -- Scuba leads out for 35. Dooley calls. Scott Calls. Peter raises to 100. Peter has about 200 behind. I re-raised all-in. Dooley and Scott both fold. Peter thinks forever, and finally folds.


This is a hand that i had the "pleasure" of having areaman sitting behind me watching. So he argued with my move the rest of the night. His side was that I should have simply smooth called for a chance to get Dooley and Scott in the pot. My response was this. I had Peter on a flush, maybe the king. But my gut said made flush. I suspected that Dooley or Scott were slow-playing trip kings. I leaned toward Scott, cuz this is how he would play three kings 90% of the time. they had less then peter's stack, and may have called with a king. But my main focus was to get peter's money in on the turn. I didnt want the board to two-pair, or another diamond to hit the river, and cost me money. 3 7's, 1 king(assuming someone has one), 1 2, and 8 diamonds(assuming no one has diamonds). Thats 13 outs or 1 in 4 chance that a scare card allows Peter to fold his medium flush on the river. Also, i didnt think there was any way Peter would lay down a flush to me there. I was wrong, he made a shocking laydown with a 9 high flush. said he thought i must of had a boat or higher flush. But 9 out of 10 times, peter is paying me off there. Thoughts?

The deuce obviously wasn't a scare card for anyone... but with ONLY a 9 high flush AND looking at paired board... AND the posibility of a redraw on river (someone could be holding AK with the Ad). I would say that "9 times out of 10 Peter paying you off"... is a stretch in this situation.

Posted By: DonkeeHoeteeThe deuce obviously wasn't a scare card for anyone... but with ONLY a 9 high flush AND looking at paired board... AND the posibility of a redraw on river (someone could be holding AK with the Ad). I would say that "9 times out of 10 Peter paying you off"... is a stretch in this situation.

a stretch eh? first off, a flush isnt afraid of a re-draw. AdKx is a 2 to 1 dog to a made flush. If you fold a made flush cuz you are worried about re-draws, your an idiot. Secondly, the board is pretty harmless to a made flush. K-K-7-2 in a pot that was riased pre-flop. 7-7 and 2-2 are possible, but long shot. I think you can throw out K-7 and K-2. So he is only losing to sevens, dueces or a higher flush. There aren't too many players at bp that fold a flush there. AS Dozo says, the old Peter auto-calls. He has shown more respect for me lately.

Dozo hit upon another reason I raised there, my position. Im not calling to cehck the river. And a smooth-call bet on the river is a big sign of strength. Add the possibilty of scare cards hitting the river, and I felt like i had a much better chance to get the money in on the turn. Areaman- I told u this that night, and Im saying it again, I am not pushing to protect anything. Only for value, Im prepared to stack off with my hand in this spot. And I really hate a min-raise. I never min-raise. with my push, Peter was getting nearly 2.5 to 1 for the rest of his stack. He made a tough laydown. Dooley and scott were getting much better than 2.5 to 1, as their stack were smaller than Peter's.

I never min raise either, only in specific situations, and I think this is one that is perfect, especially against peter, who in general to me seems afraid of big bets but rarely ever folds to a min raise. If you dont like the minraise, make it a bit more, maybe in the 175-200 range, as this still puts the other two all in and gives peter something to think about for half his stack. I could even see Peter calling the turn and folding the river with 100 behind, so I think there's some value in this play here. I just think by calling you are giving up control of the hand, and are less likely to induce a bet from Peter on the river, so I think if you would have just called you would have gotten the same value out of the hand as the way you played it.

What's scuba calling with that Peter's beating, Kx and that's it, any flush has Peter in bad shape. His hand has great showdown value and his in position, I think betting here for value is actually pretty terrible IMO. Especially if any card above a 9 peels off, as this definately is in Scuba's range considering the price he was getting. I don't really like a smooth call here since Peter has a bigger stack then the other two, and we can just eliminate Dooley having a hand in this spot, I'm guessing he had Ax with the Ad, and Scotty maybe folded a K, but depending on the time of the night he more than likely had a 7, since if he had a K and getting that price he would have called to boat up.